Dari vs Daripada

Quick question: if someone asks where a student comes from, do you say “Dia dari Sekolah A” or “Dia daripada Sekolah A”?

Most people just pick whichever one feels right and move on. But if you got this wrong, you’re in good company — it’s the single most common mistake that professional emcees and announcers make in Malay.

There’s a clear rule hiding underneath, and once you see it, you’ll spot the mistake everywhere.

What is dari vs daripada?

Both dari and daripada get translated as “from” in English, which is exactly why they get mixed up.

But Malay splits them into two completely different jobs. This isn’t a formality thing or a dialect thing — it’s a hard rule about what kind of starting point you’re describing.

Dari covers: direction, physical place, and time.

Daripada covers: people and institutions, where something comes from, what something is made of, and comparisons.

How to tell them apart

Use dari when the starting point is:

A place

A time or duration

A life stage (which marks time)

Use daripada when the starting point is:

A person

An organisation or institution

Where something comes from or originates

What something is made from

A comparison

The flagship mistake: institution vs movement

Here’s where most people slip up. These two sentences look almost identical, but they need different prepositions:

Wrong:Pemenangnya ialah Zarul dari Sekolah ABC.

This makes it sound like Zarul physically moved away from the school.

Right:Pemenangnya ialah Zarul daripada Sekolah ABC.

This says Zarul belongs to / represents the school.

The difference is about the relationship

Use dari when someone physically returned from a place:

Use daripada when someone is affiliated with or representing an organisation:

This is exactly the mistake emcees make. They announce “Pemenangnya ialah Ahmad dari Sekolah A” when they mean Ahmad is representing the school, not that he literally walked in from the building.

The comparison rule

Whenever you’re comparing two things — better, faster, more expensive, different — you always need daripada, even if it feels odd.

This rule is ironclad. English says “than,” Malay says daripada. No exceptions.

A second trap: when to use dengan instead

There’s a sneaky related mistake that catches even confident writers.

Two verbs that look similar take opposite prepositions:

Berbanding (to compare) takes dengan:

Berbeza (to differ) takes daripada:

Swapping these is a separate error from the dari/daripada confusion itself. If you remember this pair, you’ll catch yourself before making the mistake.

The exception worth knowing

Malay has one accepted exception.

Expressions like “Bakatnya dalam bermain gitar terserlah dari peringkat sekolah lagi” (“His talent for playing guitar was already evident from school level”) use dari before peringkat (level/stage), even though peringkat is abstract.

Official Malay authorities accept this usage as normal. So if you see dari peringkat, don’t correct it — it’s not a mistake.

Common mistakes

Why this mistake is so common

People don’t look at the context carefully enough before choosing a preposition.

Casual speech defaults to dari for nearly everything because it’s simpler.

Most people don’t check the official grammar guide before writing.

So the “wrong” form is often the one people hear most often in everyday speech — which is exactly why official Malay authorities keep publishing grammar columns on this topic.

Quick summary

Dari atau daripada? Perbezaannya lebih mudah daripada yang anda sangkakan. 😊

— Abang Zul

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